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TRAFFIC ENGINEERING COMMITTEE
August 9, 2005
Members Present
Patsy Archibald
Dan Baxter
.Ben Kageyama, Chair
Dave Lohse
Rick Seanor
Jerry Whitaker
Others Present
Seth Freedland
Bruce Poma
David Poma
Chuck Yates
Staff Present
Cathy Elawadly, Recording Secretary
Members Absent
Steve Turner
Trent Taylor
The meeting was called to order by Chair Ben Kageyama at 3:05 p.m. in
Conference Room No. 3, Ukiah Civie Center, 300 Seminary Avenue, Ukiah,
California.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 14, 2005
ON A MOTION by Member Archibald, seconded by Member Seanor, it was
carried by an all AYE voice vote of the members present to approve the
June 14, 2005 minutes, as submitted.
III. AUDIENCE COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS
No one from the audience came forward.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
a. None
V. NEW BUSINESS
a. Discussion and possible action regarding Church Street
Loading Zone.
Member Seanor addressed the staff report as follows:
- The Director of Public Works/City Engineer has requested the TEC review
the yellow loading zone on Church Street between South Oak Street and
School Street. Church Street at this location is one-way, eastbound with a
45-foot existing yellow loading zone located on the north side of the street
and curb side parking on the south side of the street.
- The Pomas own and operate a busiriess on the corner of Church Street
and School Street and have indicated that the existing loading zone is
utilized by a variety of vehicles, including periodic parking by 40-foot truck-
trailers.
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- Church Street is narrow and 25-feet wide, curb to curb between South
-Oak Street and School Street. City Standards allow an eight-foot width for
curbside parking and 12-foot wide travel lanes. There is a substandard
lane width for through traffic when trucks are stopped at the loading zone
and vehicles are -parked along the south side of Church Street. As a
solution to this situation, staff proposes that the existing 45-foot yellow
loading zone be relocated to the south side of the street and at the west
end of the block; which .would eliminate two spaces. The proposed-
relocation of the loading zone may require further review pending the
outcome of the Downtown Parking Improvement Study.
- Attachment "A" of the staff report shows the location of the existing and
proposed relocation of the loading zone. Attachment "B" provides the City
Code standards for a yellow loading zone.
David Poma is not supportive of the proposed relocation of the loading zone. As
an alternative option, he recommended the loading zone be located closer to
School Street by eliminating the first two parking spaces on the south side. of
Church Street rather than the proposed last two parking spaces on the west end
of the block.
Member Whitaker stated this would not be feasible because it would be
problematic for a large truck to park.
DavidlBruce Poma supported the concept of leaving the existing loading zone
by extending the length to compensate for the driveway adjacent to the loading
zone.
Member Archibald inquired whether other merchants in the downtown use the
existing loading zone.
Mr. Poma stated various merchants use this loading zone.
Member Archibald commented that parking on the south side of Church for this
particular block is time-zoned and there are not parking meters. She
recommended maintaining the existing loading zone and changing the parking
designations from the south to the north side of the street.
Member Whitaker stated parking space(s) would be lost if parking were allowed
on the north side of the street, since there is a driveway adjacent to the existing
loading zone. Also, it would be very costly to change the parking designations
from the south to the north side of the street.
Member Seanor recommended that parking remain on .the south side. of the
street.
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Chuck Yates stated emergency vehicles cannot pass through this block with the
existing loading zone in its present location and people do not always park as
they should to comply with the parking requirements.
A general discussion followed whether it would be feasible and possible to
reduce the width of the sidewalk on the north -side and still comply with the five-
foot minimum sidewalk width requirement to allow the existing loading zone to
remain and to -allow emergency vehicles the necessary space to pass through.
The members determined the overall proposal to construct a loading zone turn-
out by removing a section of curb, gutter, ahd sidewalk would be very costly and
unfeasible.
Member Lohse inquired regarding the status of the Downtown Parking
Improvement Study, as the matter of relocating the loading zone would be
subject to further review, pending the outcome of the parking study..
Member Archibald stated the parking study is contingent upon the information
provided in the City Traffic Circulation Study conclusions/recommendations,
which is not available. Potehtial changes to traffic-flow can impact parking,
especially in the Downtown area. However, it would not likely be premature for
the TEC to make a recommendatioh concerning the relocation of this particular
loading zone without the study results/recommendations.
A general discussion followed regarding the feasibility of moving the existing
loading zone further east to allow for additional parking. The problem with
emergency vehicles being able to pass through the narrow width .with parking on
the south side and with a truck in the loading zone would still remain.
Member Seanor stated that the loading zone is required to be 45-feet long and
reconfiguration of the existing parking spaces to ensure sufficient parking may be
an option.
Chair Kageyama supported deferring a decision concerning relocation of the
loading zone until staff further reviews the proposed location and whether
reconfiguration of the existing parking spaces would be necessary.
ON A MOTION by Member Lohse, seconded by Member Baxter, it was carried
by the following roll call vote of the members present to continue the matter to
the next regular meeting to allow staff time to further .review/consider the Church
Street loading zone.
AYES: Members Archibald, Lohse, Baxter, and Whitaker
Chair Kageyama
NOES: Member Seanor
VI. COMMITTEE MEMBER REPORTS
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a. Update on City Traffic Circulation Study
Member Seanor reported the City has received "Working Papers" regarding
study information and proposed traffic circulation alternatives. The City and
County staff have met to discuss the proposed alternatives since both agency
jurisdictions would be affected. However, the study results and/or potential
recommendations are not available for review by staff and the City Council
b. Update on Downtown Parking Improvement Study
Member Seanor stated Member Archibald commented on this matter in the
above-referenced discussions concerning the loading zone.
c. Update on Crosswalks
There was no discussion of this agenda item.
VII. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
There was no discussion of this agenda item.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
T re being n further business, the meeting was adjourned. at 3:52 p.m.
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Cathy E awadly, Recor ing Secretary
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