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DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
July 31, 2008
MEMBERS PRESENT OTHERS PRESENT
Jody Cole Robert Axt
Tom Hise Steve Siderakis & brother
Tom Liden Jan Chan
Nick Thayer John Chan
Richard Moser, Chair
MEMBERS ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Alan Nicholson Jennifer Faso, Associate Planner
Estok Menton Cathleen Moller, Economic
Development Coordinator
Cathy Elawadly, Recording
Secretary
The meeting of the Design Review Board was called to order by Acting Chair Liden at 1:00 p.m.,
at Ukiah Civic Center, Conference Room No. 3, 300 Seminary Avenue, Ukiah, California.
2. ROLL CALL
Roll was taken with the results listed above.
3. RIGHT TO APPEAL
Acting Chair Liden read the appeal process. For matters heard at this meeting, the final
date for appeal is August 11, 2008.
4. AUDIENCE COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS
No one came forward.
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: July 17, 2008 minutes
M/S Cole/Thayer to approve the July 17, 2008 minutes, as submitted. Motion carried.
6. NEW AND MODIFIED CONSTRUCTION
6A. Pre-application Review: Bob Axt/Siderakis: Comments on Pre-Application
review for demolishing an existing apartment building on the northwest corner of
the site; demolishing a small office building and shed on the southern portion of
the site; demolishing the existing `Farm Johns' building located up on the State
Street frontage; and constructing new single-story buildings "A" (7,200 sq. ft.), "B"
(7,500 sq. ft), and "C" (2,000 square feet). The project includes development of a
full parking lot to serve the new buildings and adding landscaping throughout.
The site is located at 1100-1120 South State Street (surrounding the Garden
Cafe) APN 003-130-37. The Garden Cafe building and its parking lot are not a
part of the project. The intent of the project is to create a small retail center on
this underutilized property.
Associate Planner Faso commented the applicants and owners of the Garden Cafe
desire to redevelop the site and have applied for a Planning Commission level pre-
application review of their plans to improve the site.
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The project involves:
• Demolishing an existing apartment building on the northwest corner of the site.
• Demolishing a small office building and shed on the southern portion of the site.
• Demolishing the existing Farmer Johns building located upon the State Street
frontage and construct new single-story buildings "A" (7,200 sq. ft.), "B" (7,500
sq. ft.) and "C" (2,000 sq. ft.)
• The project also includes development of a full parking lot to serve the buildings
and adding landscaping throughout. The Garden Cafe building and parking lot
are not part of the project.
• The project intent is to create a small retail center.
• Staff is asking the DRB to review the submitted pre-application plans, discuss
the design and architecture of the project with the applicants and provide
comments/suggestions for the Planning Commission.
The DRB generally discussed the proposed building footprints and overall site layout
relative to potential landscaping and planter areas, existing street frontage conditions
relative to ingress/egress, utility location and potential easements, parking/location of
parking lot trees/site circulation, pedestrian/customer friendly features within the
proposed retail complex such as providing for a park-like setting, possible improvements
to the area of Doolin Creek and the preservation thereof, how the existing Garden Cafe
building fits with the proposed new buildings in terms of architecture and design,
materials and color schemes and site layout and brief comments on design of the
proposed new buildings.
The DRB further discussed the project with the applicants and architect later in the
meeting favored utilizing the Commercial Development Design Guidelines Project
Review Checklist intended to assist in determining project consistency with the
Commercial Development Design Guidelines for the Downtown Design District.
7. FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM
7A. Continuation of Fa�ade Improvement Program No. 08-02, Judith Waterman:
Consideration of upgrading and preserving Victorian and garage, including
landscaping painting, roof and windows at 125 E. Mill Street (002-302-56). On
June 12, 2008 the Design Review Board reviewed the proposed plans for
Fa�ade Improvements at this location and asked the applicant to submit
additional information including revised landscaping plans and show materials for
proposed fence.
Associate Planner Faso commented as follows:
• The applicant has applied for a FIG to upgrade and preserve an existing
Victorian and garage in the C-1 Zoning District.
• The DRB has previously reviewed the FIG application.
• The original grant application included upgrade to landscaping and fencing,
exterior paint, roof windows and turret extension.
• On June 12, 2008, the DRB determined only the proposed landscaping and
exterior paint are eligible under the guidelines for the FIG program.
• The DRB also asked the applicant to provide the following information with
regards to the proposed exterior paint, landscaping and fence to include:
o Landscape plan to show type and location of proposed species.
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o Show detail of proposed fence and trellis showing proposed color and
materials. The proposed materials should be consistent with the existing
building materials.
o Display sample of the proposed paint for the building.
• Attachments 2, 2-1 display general layout for landscaping including the name of
the proposed landscaping features and Attachment 2-3 displays the design of the
proposed picket fence.
• The proposed estimated costs for the work:
-Landscaping/Fence (automatic sprinkler system, sod, tree shrubs, fence) _
$4,360 @ 50% FIG
-Exterior Paint (preparation and paint exterior) _ $13,650 @ 50% FIG
-Trellis (construct trellis at front entryway) _ $506.59 @ 50% FIG
• At the June 12, 2008 DRB meeting, the Board funding would by apportioned for
the exterior paint only at 80% of the 50% FIG since portions of the building are
not visible from the street. Furthermore, the Board determined that proposed
energy efficient windows along the with the proposed re-roof included in the
original FIG application were not eligible under the FIG guidelines.
• The building has not previously received a FIP grant. The FIP grant allows for
50% of the eligible expenses to be considered for reimbursement with a lifetime
maximum reimbursement of$50,000 per storefront.
Chair Moser came to the meeting at 2:34 p.m.
The DRB/applicant discussed the project as follows:
• The DRB supported the proposed color scheme to include
➢ Base—a pale moon yellow (very soft yellow)
➢ Trim/pillars/gutters/3-foot high picket fence/window trim —True white
➢ Molding of windows, accent features on house— Burgundy color
➢ Inner portions of windows and door— Dark blue
• The DRB were in agreement of the proposed color scheme.
• Judy Waterman eliminated the trellis from the project.
• In terms of the proposed landscaping, the DRB/applicant agreed the existing
hedge should be removed. The DRB were in agreement concerning the
proposed landscaping species selected to coincide with new color scheme of the
historical building. While roses are typically associated with Victorian and/or
historical buildings, there was a discussion concerning the rose species to be
located along the picket fence line.
• The applicant favors having a lawn area.
• Member Thayer was not supportive of implementing lawn and recommended the
watering system not spray over onto the sidewalk for water conservation
purposes.
• Associate Planner Faso referred to Table 2, Recommended Eligible Costs and
stated the total recommended costs will have to be re-calculated because
preparation and paint exterior cost should be $13,650 and trellis work was
eliminated from the application.
M/S Liden/Thayer to recommend FRC approval of the FIG No. 08-02, as updated and
with corrections to the eligibility costs as noted above. Motion carried.
Member Thayer requested Landscaping Plans be drawn to scale.
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7B. Continuation of Fa�ade Improvement Program No. 07-04. John Chan:
Consideration of upgrading an office building at 510 S. School Street,
(002-271-03). On June 12, 2008 the Design Review Board reviewed the
proposed plans for the Fa�ade Improvements at this location as requested that
the applicant explore the use of different color palettes.
Associate Planner Faso commented as follows:
• The applicant has applied for a FIG to upgrade an office building on School
Street and Seminary Avenue.
• The DRB originally reviewed this grant request at the June 12, 2008 meeting and
it was determined that in order for the proposed exterior paint upgrade to be
eligible for grant funds, the new exterior paint must be a new color palate. It was
further concluded the proposed asphalt repair for the parking lot was not eligible.
• The applicant has revised the color selection and the following improvements are
proposed:
Exterior Paint - Preparation for painting of building. The four-tone color pallet
consists of:
- Hancock Gray for the main body
- Gray for the fascia and accents
- Heritage Red for the front door
- Savannah Moss for the accent
- Drabware for the widow and eave accent
- Bronze for the gutters
Gutters - Install seamless gutters and pre-paint Bronze color
Front Doors — Replace existing heavy wooden front door with glass doors.
• The building has not previously received a FIP grant.
• The Recommended Eligible Costs include:
- Preparation and paint exterior- $6,750 @ 50% FIG
- Installation of seamless gutters - $4,508 @ 50% FIG
- Replace front door— (to be decided)
The DRB/applicants commented on the project as follows:
• Member Thayer made project recommendations and they include planting
vegetative plants that do not require high maintenance and/or regular trimming
and of a species having a seasonal rotation, vine over the existing fence with
Purple Leaf Honeysuckle, remove the gate and corresponding poles on either
side of the gate.
• The DRB highly favored the color scheme proposed for the building, as
referenced above.
• Since landscaping was not part of the original FIG programs, funding for
landscaping can be applied for as a Phase II component of the fa�ade
improvement project.
• The DRB favored maintaining the exiting heavy wooden front door `Heritage Red'
as opposed to replacing it with a glass door.
• The DRB favored `curved face' aluminum gutters for the building.
• Applicants John and Jan Chan agreed with the Board's recommendation and
also agreed that landscaping is necessary to enhance the building
improvements.
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M/S Thayer/Liden to recommend the FRC approve FIG No. 07-04, as proposed and
discussed above.
The DRB continued discussion of the Siderakis pre-application view proposed on S.
State Street.
Architect Bob A�ct and the applicants were present for answer questions.
Bob Axt commented as follows:
• He reviewed the site plans with the Board and visually demonstrated the
proposed general layout the building footprints, landscaping, sidewalks, utility
easements, proposed plans for poolin Creek that borders the north side of the
subject property. He explained the elevations for the new buildings in contrast
with what would visually been seen from S. State Street and Talmage Road. He
discussed the building elevations and rooflines and stated the theme for each of
the three buildings centers around the ends of the buildings having a lower
elevation than the other portions with identifying arched entrance ways.
• He confirmed while there will be an environmental study conducted to address
potential significant impacts to Doolin Creek and/or other possible environmental
impacts, the improvements to the north side of the property would be completed
with Doolin Creek in mind.
• He stated the project represents a small shopping center and that the three new
buildings proposed would be for commercial/retail use.
• He presented the color scheme for the exterior portions of the building and how
they would effectively complement the design of the buildings.
• He noted the utilities would be undergrounded.
• He stated while the architecture of the existing restaurant does not match with
the proposed new buildings, it may be that improvements may be necessary in
some way. He is of the opinion that buildings on the site do not have to exactly
match in design/architecture provided they are situated on the site effectively and
all the other project components are a good fit.
• The buildings have accommodations for storage.
The DRB were concerned with such issues as:
➢ Is the remediation of Doolin Creek included in the project.
➢ How extensive is the landscaping.
➢ Would there be park-like areas within the shopping complex.
➢ The backs of the buildings should be architecturally pleasing since they
would be visible from Mulberry Street, which is a City dedicated street.
➢ Questioned the drainage and what measures would be taken to control
excess runoff on the site.
➢ Will the street frontage be re-done in terms of egress/ingress in
conjunction with S. State Street and to appropriately the two cross walks
adjacent to the site.
➢ Questioned walkability and access to the shopping complex.
➢ Do the plans effectively address usable space similar to Park Falls Plaza
and Pear Tree Center.
➢ Questioned on-site circulation and parking in connection with building
setbacks from S. State Street. It was noted parking in the rear of buildings
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may not always be the best fit, depending upon the configuration of the
site.
➢ The architecture of the existing restaurant does not match the new
buildings.
➢ Will the existing street trees be replaced.
➢ Can exceptions to the parking requirement standards be made to allow
for more of a compact area for a small park and/or rest area.
There was a brief discussion concerning the possibility of exchanging parking stalls for
the Garden Cafe fully in compliance with the parking standards to allow for more open
space for landscaping/rest areas. There will be separate parking designations for the
new uses.
The DRB and applicants generally discussed the building elevations, signage wherein
the signs for the retail business will resemble those designed for the Pear Tree Center
sign program, building setback from S. State Street, depth of the site relative to parking
and building footprints, proposed color scheme, architectural treatments including the
archways, how the existing Garden Cafe fits into the project, landscaping and location of
planter areas, parking and parking requirements, and other relevant site features. The
DRB emphasize the use of the Commercial Design Guidelines Project Review Checklist.
The DRB provided a summary of comments relative to the informal discussion
concerning the project as follows:
Member Moser supports consideration given to the site layout in connection with the
viewshed from Talmage Road allowing for nice visual presentation.
Member Thayer suggests allowing for more detail as far as how the site interacts with
the existing creek, existing street trees, and more public invitation for some of the
open/outdoor areas, citing Pear Tree Center and Park Falls Plaza as good examples.
Address how the southern portion of the property is remedied relative to the Creek bank
and landscaping incorporated.
Bob A�ct stated matters concerning the Creek would be addressed as a separate issue
in an environmental study
Member Liden supports having walkable areas and/or a mini park/shaded areas
wherein customers would be encourage to walk around to other stores in the shopping
center rather than parking directly in front of the store they intend to shop. He also
supports consolidating some of the linear parking stalls wherein the City standard for
parking lots is one tree for every four parking stalls to allow for more outdoor space.
Steve Siderakis stated there will be sidewalks constructed in the shopping center.
Member Hise commented as Mr. Axt develops his design of the project, he favors a
strong architectural theme. The Garden Cafe building should fit the architectural theme
of the new buildings and the Planning Commission will likely desire the same. He
expressed concern regarding Mulberry Street wherein the back of the buildings should
have a design treatment that is visually pleasing. Mulberry Street is a dedicated City
street and not an alley whereby visual presentation of the backside of buildings is
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important. The trash/recycle enclosures should be part of the building architecture rather
than the landscaping wherein a building is added for this purpose.
Box Axt stated a landscape strip exists between Mulberry Street and the site. Also, the
existing buildings on the site are lower in elevation by approximately 3.5 feet.
Member Hise supports the restoration of the Creek/bank should be included in the
future of the site, noting the issue of the Creek will come up during discretionary review.
He further supports providing for a visual landscaping gateway from Talmage Road into
the site, which may be cause to look at the City Code in this regard and possibly under-
park the site by a few parking stalls.
Member Thayer supports the project involves a comprehensive landscape plan that
additionally will allow for new planters at the north entry to the subject property.
Whatever improvements are made to the new developments should carry over to the
northern portion of the site that is developed with the restaurant to provide for a quality
project.
The DRB supports improvements made to the backside of the existing restaurant.
Member Thayer supports the concept rather than requiring substantial architectural
improvements to the existing building, that the site preparation/new development and
incorporation of the landscaping features be completed such that the project blends
nicely. There could be some variations to the architecture provided the design and
improvements fit.
8. MATTERS FROM THE BOARD
None.
9. MATTERS FROM STAFF
None.
10. SET NEXT MEETING/ADJOURNMENT:
The next regular meeting will be August 28, 2008 from 1:00 —3:00 p.m.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 4:06 p.m.
Richard Moser, Chair
Cathy Elawadly, Recording Secretary
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