HomeMy WebLinkAboutDRBM_05082008 MINUTES
DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
May 8, 2008
MEMBERS PRESENT OTHERS PRESENT
Jody Cole Dave Hull
Tom Liden
Estok Menton, Vice Chair
Tom Hise
Alan Nicholson
Nick Thayer
MEMBERS ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Richard Moser Senior Planner Townsend
Cathy Elawadly, Recording
Secretary
The meeting of the Design Review Board was called to order by Vice Chair Menton at 2:00 p.m.,
at Ukiah Civic Center, Conference Room No. 3, 300 Seminary Avenue, Ukiah, California.
2. ROLL CALL
Roll was taken with the results listed above.
3. AUDIENCE COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS
No one came forward.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: April 10, 2008 minutes
M/S Liden/Hise to approve April 10, 2008 minutes, as submitted. Motion carried.
5. FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM
5A. FaCade Improvement Grant Program 07-05, Dave Hull, 376 E. Gobbi Street.
Limited to Phase 2: Landscaping and related parking lot improvements, lighting
and fencing (Continuation of Review): Recommendation to Finance Review
Committee
Senior Planner Townsend commented as follows:
• The applicant has applied for a FIP grant to update his building on East Gobbi
Street.
• The Committee recommended approval to the Finance Review Committee for
Phase 1 of the project relative to building exterior, windows, doors, and
roof/gutter improvements at the April 10, 2008 DRB meeting leaving Phase 2 for
the landscaping/paving and other issues to be continued for discussion.
• The Finance Review Committee awarded FIP grant funding to the applicant in
the sum of$13,000 for Phase I.
• The final elements and costs for Phase 2 will be discussed at today's Committee
meeting to include:
❖ Fencinq
Proposed Cost: $3,471
DRB: discuss eligibility of west and south frontage, including revised
fence caps
Estimated Cost: $3,471
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❖ Landscaping, irrigation, lighting, front pavers
Proposed Cost: $24,065
DRB: discuss landscaping and irrigation on East, South, West elevations;
all pavers and exclude lighting (proposed along North border)
Revised Estimated Cost: $23,065
❖ Drainaqe, irriqation, utilitv relocation, remove existinq veqetation,
compaction, pavinq 8,685 square feet (west portion of site)
Proposed Cost: $35,445
DRB: discuss eligibility of west portion of site and preparation for
landscaping along north boundary of site
And,
Preparation for installation of irrigation and landscape along north
boundarv
Proposed Cost: $4,773
8 lighting fixtures
Proposed Cost: $1,080
DRB: discussion that lighting is International Dark Sky compatible; south
and west elevations
Estimated Cost: $1,080
❖ Recvcle/trash enclosure
Proposed Cost: $4,612
DRB: discuss aggregate block to replace chain link enclosure at northeast
corner
Estimated Cost: $4,612
Grand Total Cost for Phase 2: $72,446 @ 50% _ $36,223
• Staff recommends discussion concerning the matter of paving since this has
been an issue.
• The DRB appears to support funding for paving to the degree it is tied to the
landscaping, which is also a component of the project.
• Staff considered cost comparisons between saw cutting, paving and the
remediation versus all new paving. New paving is similar to the remediation
process.
• Staff recommends the DRB review the staff report attachments concerning the
fencing cap, paving/landscaping bids, lighting fixtures and recycle/trash
enclosure block material.
• The total of both Phase 1 and Phase 2 is under the $50,000 FIP cap.
• The applicant must submit all costs for work before the Finance Review
Committee can approve the funding for the project.
• Staff has increased the proposed total from $36,223 to $36,500 to cover permit
fees, if any.
Staff/Committee/Applicant discussed Phase 2 as follows:
• The Committee is pleased with the Phase 1 exterior improvements.
• There was discussion concerning the square footage and type/material for the
fence. The proposed fence is for the front portion of the site. The Committee is
agreeable the cap for the top portion of the fence being a ball and spire as shown
in the attachment ball opposed to a pointed cap.
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• There was discussion concerning the outdoor lighting fixtures whereby 8 lights
are proposed @ approximately $100 each. The Committee supported `Madrid' for
the outdoor lighting model as shown in the attachment.
• There was discussion concerning the measures taken by the applicant to
discourage/address potential vandalism, trespass and other nuisance issues
regarding his property.
• There was discussion concerning the matter of landscaping/paving and how to
effectively apportion the work in conjunction with the cost estimate of $40,218 to
fairly and reasonably reach the optimum benefit from the FIP at 50% funding.
The DRB is not supportive of paving, except to remediate for installation of
landscaping, irrigation and proper drainage. Past FIP policy has not typically
provided funding for the paving of parking lots. However, in this case, the fa�ade
improvements also include the element of landscaping to beautify the site, which
is located in the City's gateway and provide for an aesthetically pleasing
presentation to the community. In order to effectively complete the landscaping,
site preparation involving saw cutting of the existing parking lot, removal of
asphalt and soil and reshaping/recompacting of the existing base material are
project components to accommodate the landscaping. The elements of drainage,
irrigation, utility relocation, removal of existing vegetation and compaction of
paving are also part of the landscaping process.
• The DRB expressed concerned regarding policy pertinent to paving/parking lot
improvements.
• Senior Planner Townsend stated the `Excerpts from the Fa�ade Improvement
Grant Program Guidelines' provide information as to policy relative to program
emphasis, eligibility improvements, and program exclusions. Projects involving
landscaping and related site elements in highly visible locations such as city
gateways and the Downtown core are emphasized under the program.
• Dave Hull explained how the improvements to the parking lot would be able to
accommodate the proposed landscaping, utility lines, and drainage.
• The Committee discussed the landscaping features and reviewed the bid
proposals for the parking lot improvements and landscaping.
• Dave Hull addressed the landscaping and potential use of the existing irrigation
system for the eastern fa�ade.
• Member Liden inquired regarding the current plans for the north elevation.
• Dave Hull supports staff's recommendation in the staff report and the
Committee's suggestions regarding landscaping in the area as provided for in the
DRB minutes of April 10, 2008. He has reviewed the plans and bid proposals and
decided to proceed with paving the entire parking lot even though there was an
issue concerning FIP participation for the improvements that would have to be
made to the northern parking lot to accommodate the landscaping.
• The DRB continued discussion about the degree of FIP participation concerning
fair compensation for parking lot improvements. The Committee agreed if the
applicant must tear up his parking lot to accommodate the landscaping and
corresponding systems, participation regarding paving is fair.
• The DRB addressed the staff report and possibly modifying the language relative
to paving and landscaping.
• Member Hise is of the opinion that funding should not be allocated for paving
purposes, but it is relevant in this case in order to provide for a pleasing site
design since the applicant will have to modify the parking lot to accommodate the
landscaping.
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• The DRB noted the public does not typically look at parking lots when passing by
a site whereby the overall appearance of a building's exterior and site design are
what people notice.
• The DRB is concerned with setting precedence that it is acceptable practice for
applicants to apply for FIP grant funding for parking lots improvements.
• The DRB supports that further discussion may be necessary to further define
policy regarding improvement to parking lots using FIP grant funding.
• The Committee agreed paving/parking lot improvement is definitely a project
component and supports that future projects involving paving/paving
improvements be considered case-by-case as it relates to the total project.
• The DRB discussed the value/relevance of identifying/prioritizing which site
elevations are the most feasible/reasonable in terms of eligibility from the FIP.
• There was a brief discussion about whether the URA can allocate additional
funding because the $100,000 budget may not be may not be sufficient to
participate in other projects.
• Senior Planner Townsend commented the issue concerning paving is whether
the applicant is `paving just to pave,' which creates another expense. In this
case, paving is necessary to accommodate the landscaping, irrigation and
related drainage.
• The DRB discussed eliminating the square footage cited in the staff report for
paving of 8,685 square feet of the western portion of the site so the project would
not put emphasis on the paving portion of the project because paving is not the
primary focus of the project. The staff report, as written, appears the applicant is
requesting funding for significant improvements to the parking lot and this is not
the case. The applicant is requesting funding assistance for the western portion
of the site for landscaping etc., and then parking lot remediation. Since the
applicant is concerned with a quality project, he is willing to pay the cost for
additional paving. However, the question is to determine how much paving
should be compensated under the FIP.
• The DRB agreed since the Committee is asking the applicant to tear up his
parking lot to accommodate landscaping/utilities he should be entitled to
compensation.
• Dave Hull commented another element of the project that has not been
addressed is staff's request in the preliminary project discussions there be a
handicapped parking space situated immediately adjacent to the construction for
the northern portion of the site, which would necessitate grading and paving to
allow for the handicap access.
• Senior Planner Townsend/Member Hise clarified that this is not a requirement
of the DRB, but could be under taken along with the other changes.
• Member Hise stated the owner is obligated by law to address handicapped
spaces.
• Senior Planner Townsend/Member Hise recommended alternative language in
the project findings as it relates to that portion of estimated costs in the sum of
$40,218 should read, "drainage, irrigation, utility relocation, remove existing
vegetation, and associated remediation of paving repairs and upgrades" and
eliminate the language that reads, `paving 8,685 square feet' as part of the
approval process. In this way, it is clear that paving is only included as an
incidental component of the project.
• All cost information would be submitted to the Finance Review Board for
approval.
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• The DRB agreed no further discussion regarding any of the other funding items
was necessary.
• Vice Chair Menton supports the motion to recommend approval reflects staff's
findings.
• Dave Hull requested his project be modified so that the recycling enclosure is
Phase 3 because the contractor would not be able to complete the work until a
later date. He could then seek reimbursement for the other work that has been
completed since the Finance Review Board requires all costs be submitted for
approval and the cost for this work could be deferred to a later date.
• The DRB agreed the specifications in terms of providing the number of species
and square footage for work regarding drainage, paving, and other relevant
improvements does not have to be expressly documented in the findings.
• The DRB agreed the location of the paving improvements should be specified.
The DRB supports the language for compensation regarding landscaping and
paving be modified to read: "Drainage, irrigation, utility relocation, remove
existing vegetation, compaction, and associated incidental paving, repairs and
upgrades to accomplish this on the western portion of the site." The findings
supporting this language include: 1) the project is located in the City's gateway;
2) There would be substantial impact to paved areas as a result of the
landscaping for the entire project; and, 3) the elimination of the language that
reads, `paving 8,685 square feet' pertinent to the FIP participation regarding
landscaping/paving estimated at a total cost of$40,218.
M/S Liden/Hise to recommend the Finance Review Committee approve funding in the
sum of $36,500 for Grant Program 07-05 contingent on compliance with the project
Conditions of Approval with Phase 2 as proposed by staff regarding the landscaping and
related parking lot improvements, lighting and fencing, and Phase 3 to include
trash/ recycling enclosure, including the findings and language modifications, as
discussed above. Motion carried by an all AYE roll call vote.
6. MATTERS FROM THE BOARD
6A. Continuation of Review: FaCade Improvement Grant Program: Program
emphasis and eligibility requirements and project area, for possible
recommendation to Ukiah Redevelopment Agency.
Staff/Committee continued the discussion of the FIP eligibility requirements and project
area as follows:
• Senior Planner Townsend provided an update on the previous discussion
regarding this agenda item as reflected in the April 10, 2008 minutes.
• There was discussion regarding whether boundaries for project areas should be
expanded and/or whether the project areas should primarily focus on the
Downtown and Downtown Core and key gateways such as Perkins Street as
opposed to areas within the City limits on North and South State Streets and
Talmage Road. The Committee supports setting Board goals and objectives for
projects relative to eligibility rather than striving to balance the criteria provided in
the FIP guideline for projects.
• The DRB further supports applicants apply for FIP grant funding wherein the
Board would have the responsibility of providing comments, input, design
information and make recommendations concerning the project.
• It may be that a funding cap should be placed on various project components,
such as paving.
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• Member Cole inquired whether the FIP guidelines specify how to address
landscaping and whether there is a requirement concerning landscaping
coverage.
• Senior Planner Townsend stated the guidelines address site elements and not
the amount of coverage. However, the Commercial Design Guidelines address
coverage for new projects.
• Member Cole commented while the landscaping for the Hull project will be very
pleasing, she expressed concern that in the future more and more landscaping
and paving project will come forward as opposed to exterior building
improvements.
• The DRB noted the Downtown could really benefit from the FIP relative to
awnings and newly painted buildings and emphasized the Board should not lose
sight that this aspect has long been the primary Program objective.
• The DRB does not support allocating FIP funding for paving of parking lots.
• The DRB supports that applicants hire consultants for engineering, building and
site designs and color schemes to present to the DRB for comments, questions,
and input.
• Vice Chair Menton supports establishing goals and objectives and/or specific
criteria for what they desire to see for projects so the funding is appropriately and
fairly allocated.
• The DBR supports the URA look at possibly increasing the FIP budget.
• Member Thayer commented it is likely the matter of adopting the `SMARTCODE'
will have an impact on FIP projects and/or possibly change the scope of a
project because of the zoning differential in conjunction with FIP policy. Since the
Form Based Code supports mixed use residential and commercial/retail, how will
the program deal with residential uses. The FIP policy indicates funding
consideration can only be allocated for business purposes.
• Member Thayer inquired regarding churches, apartment buildings, schools
and/or other agencies that may not fit the typical definition of what constitutes a
business, noting such agencies could benefit from FIP. The question is whether
FIP policy is tied to a building or a purpose, such as beautification.
• The DRB emphasized the importance of establishing FIP criteria to correspond
with project uses and zoning designations.
• There was discussion about the definition of commercial property versus the
definition of a business. FIP funding is available for commercial property whether
privately owned or rented.
• Senior Planner Townsend stated changes in language and/or changes in the
scope of the FIP must be approved by the URA.
• Member Nicholson commented decisions concerning the FIP should be
considered based on the zoning requirements and whether the proposed project
meets the zoning criteria wherein the project complies with the Program objective
of beautifying the community. He inquired whether funding programs exist for
residential improvements.
• Staff confirmed housing renovation and rehabilitation programs are available
under affordable housing.
• Member Nicholson inquired whether the DRB should be using the checklist for
pre-approval considerations for projects on page 23 of the Design Guidelines for
Commercial Developments.
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• Senior Planner Townsend stated the checklist does not pertain to the FIP and
is used to assist with the design aspects for commercial projects that are subject
to discretionary review.
7. MATTER FROM STAFF
7A. Continuation of Review: Downtown Ukiah-Perkins Street Corridor Form-
Based Zoning Code Amendment, City of Ukiah Planning and Community
Development Department.
None.
7B. Discuss topics for joint Design Review Board/Planning Commission
meeting; Review adopted Commercial Development Design Guidelines and
other adopted documents.
None.
8. SET NEXT MEETING/ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 5:01 p.m.
Estok Menton, Vice Chair
Cathy Elawadly, Recording Secretary
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